November 08, 2015

DOWNTON ABBEY 6 -Episode 8

And the drama comes to an end: Lady Mary Crawley revealed herself to be a 'nasty, jealous, scheming bitch' - according to Lady Edith - in the finale of the last series of Downton Abbey, before the Christmas special

Ep 8 HERE   or     Ep 8 HERE

-----spoilers below -----
Downton Abbey finished with a wedding – a suitably traditional happy ending. Or at least it was supposed to be.
In fact the series' big finale was shamelessly shallow and calculating, whilst the underlying message it sent out was just depressing.
After five years, six series, and 47 episodes of Downton Abbey, the moral of the story came down to one simple lesson: in life it's better to be a Lady Mary than a Lady Edith.
Inevitably, it was the beautiful, bitchy, sister who found love at the very last and ended up with everything. The more good-hearted, ordinary, eternally unlucky younger sibling lost her chance of happiness, wealth, and marriage to her beloved beau Bertie Pelham.

Perennially overshadowed and mocked by Mary, not only did Edith's hopes of a reversal in fortunes suddenly evaporate it was the callous actions of her nemesis that caused it.
Such is life – if you're a plain Jane like Edith or a glamourpuss like Mary. So it would have been much more radical and GRATIFYING if the show's creator/writer Julian Fellowes had let Edith triumph and Mary get her just desserts.
The same went for Thomas Barrow. His bitter misery over his impending unemployment at Downton (not in the show but as the Crawleys' footman) finally became too much. He slashed his wrists and was only saved when a suddenly psychic Baxter ran back to rescue him.
Other sub-plots in the show's finale included: Mr Molesley's debut as a teacher; the agony aunt at Edith's magazine Cassandra Jones turning out to Septimus Spratt; and Mrs Patmore running a house of ill repute (inadvertently).
Fellowes crammed in so many loose ends you wondered why he was stopping – after the Christmas special.
She loves him: Edith's love story with Bertie seemingly came to an end
The way that Fellowes has been unable to resist contriving happy endings to bestow upon his characters, Edith might yet become Mrs Pelham.
'I love him,' Edith told Cora. 'I'd accept him in a trice if it weren't for Marigold.'
Bloody kids…
Marrying Bertie without telling him that Marigold was her illegitimate daughter would 'mean there's a lie at the heart of my marriage. But if I tell the truth, will I ruin it?' Edith fretted feebly.
There was really only one way to find out. JUST TELL HIM, we shouted as she dithered.
Things became more complicated when Bertie inherited the title of Marquess of Hexham.
'That's absurd!' Lady Mary cried, horrified, as she realized Edith would become a Marchioness and 'outrank us all.'
'A genuine copper-bottomed Marquess! For Edith - who couldn't make her dolls do what she wanted!' cheered the Earl, sensing the prospect of finally marrying off his dowdy daughter and smelling CASH.
Predictably he argued against the risk of revealing she had a secret lovechild.
'Edith's had so little luck in her life!' he harrumphed. Never mind about Bertie's.
'Won't you send me to bed happy?!' Henry pleaded with Edith for an answer to his proposal – not the indecent kind.
'I love you Bertie. The trouble is, I'm not as simple as I used to be,' Edith trembled, even though she was. As if correcting herself, she said: 'My LIFE is not as simple.'
Sadly, it was about to become much simpler. Lady Mary and Henry Talbot fought so fiercely over his ruthless pursuit of her that he departed Downton.
So at breakfast the next morning Mary greeted Bertie's announcement that he and Edith had good news with an icy silence.
'You see?! I'm getting married and you've lost your man and you just can't stand it!' Edith finally snapped bravely and, it transpired, fatally.
'You're wrong. I'm VERY happy for you,' purred Mary, in a manner that didn't sound it. 'And I admire you Bertie,' Mary continued. Fixing her gaze on her sister, she added acidly: 'Not everyone would accept Edith's past…'
'Mary, don't!' gasped Tom.
'Well you wouldn't accept him without telling him,' Mary mused pitilessly. 'About Marigold - who she really is.'
When Edith eventually uttered the fateful confession 'Marigold is my daughter', the merest flicker of satisfaction crossed Mary's face.
'Will you excuse me?' Bertie simply said, and walked out. With Tom and Edith reeling from the devastation she had created Mary just returned to her newspaper.
Breakfast table dramas: Mary dropped the bombshell about Marigold's real parent
Breakfast table dramas: Mary dropped the bombshell about Marigold's real parent
Off he goes: Bertie didn't choose to sick around to see what married life with Edith would be like
Off he goes: Bertie didn't choose to sick around to see what married life with Edith would be like
'Would you have married me in a lie?' Bertie asked later - the crucial question. 'We'll never know now will we?' Edith answered, as if Fellowes could not decide. 'I'm terribly sorry of course. My life was about to be perfectly wonderful. Now I've thrown it all away.'
In a way she was happier back in the role of victim, suffering through her own weaknesses or her sister's viciousness.
'Shut up!' Edith screamed when Mary tried to insist she really had assumed Bertie knew about Marigold. 'Who do you think you're talking to?! Mama?! Your maid?! I KNOW you! I know you to be a nasty, jealous, scheming bitch!'
We did too and so did Tom Branson now.
'Well you got what you wanted!' he blazed at Mary. 'Bertie's left for the next train and Edith won't be the next Marchioness of Hexham.'
Life with the Crawleys really seemed to have corrupted the former militant Republican's principles.
He turned on her so passionately, for a moment it suggested it would be Mary and Tom who would end up together.
'DON'T LIE. Not to me!' he cried, with a mix of hurt and caring. 'You can't stop ruining things – for Edith, for yourself. Anything to feel less frightened and alone! You're a coward, like all bullies!'
Now he knows! Tom Branson finally got the measure of scheming Lady Mary, and he told her so
Mary showed her true colours again after Thomas tried to kill himself, carping to her father 'do you still think that dismissing Barrow was a useful saving?'
'That's a bit below the belt – even for you,' the Earl muttered witheringly.
And yet Julian Fellowes still couldn't condemn his heroine, or resist lobbying for our sympathy, just as he had with Thomas Barrow even though we had seen them both do so much that did not merit it.
'I've only myself else to blame,' Barrow told Mary about his loneliness. 'I've said and done things, I don't know why. I can't stop myself. Now I'm paying the price.'
Yes he was the male Lady Mary.
'I could say the same,' she said, his self-pity and hypocrisy obviously striking a chord.
Anna, Bates, the Dowager, and even Edith queued up alongside Tom and Thomas to psycho-analyse Mary, argue her break-up with Henry was ill-advised, and explained or somehow justified her heartlessness to Edith.
Bit of a bully? The general consensus is that Mary is just rather mean, with even her father the Earl telling her 'that was a bit low, even for you'
'Henry's perfect for you! You're just too stupid and stuck up to see it!' blasted Edith, still enjoying the excuse to finally speak up and lay into her sister.
'Tom believes you're unhappy. That's why you lash out as you do,' their grandmother suggested more softly.
The Dowager was almost as smitten with Henry as Tom was. 'Lord Gillingham had birth, money, and looks, but didn't suit you. He wasn't clever enough, or strong enough. Henry Talbot is both.'
Lady Mary's maid had the same blinding insight.
'She can't control him,' Anna told Bates. 'That's what frightens her. He's stronger than her – or as strong. And she's not used to it.'
'She's a bit of a bully,' Bates agreed (admiringly). 'She likes her own way.'
The consensus was either Mary didn't really like Henry Talbot or that they weren't that well suited. This was initially Mary's own view too.
'Mr. Talbot is not right for me,' she complained to Anna. 'We'd be miserable. I AM sure. Nobody can believe that I can know my own mind. I mean it.' She seemed convinced, and convincing. Talbot was vain, arrogant, and not that charming. They clashed rather than complemented one another.
Something's looking up: Elsewhere, Mr Molesley made his debut as a teacher
'You push in here, into my home, in order to call me a grubby gold-digger?! You've got a nerve!' Mary had blazed when he had accused of being obsessed with status. Later she described his behaviour as 'high-handed and bullying and unapologetic!'
Of course she had a point but only such unbearable snobs as the Crawleys could consider a toff like Henry Talbot as riff-raff. He came from 'decent family stock' but had no prospects of money or a title.
'Am I expected to lower myself to his level and be grateful I'm allowed to do so?!' continued Mary.
'None of us thinks it's a good idea,' declared the Earl, who disparagingly referred to Talbot as 'a mechanic'.
The problem was not so much their difference in social standing but the value Mary put on it.'
'I don't mean to pull rank,' Mary told Henry, doing exactly that before explaining if they married, even her young son George would 'out-rank' him.
'I believe in love:' The Dowager told Mary to leave her preconceptions behind and marry the man she loves
'People like us need to marry properly,' she droned, not referring to herself and Henry but people like the Crawleys.
This seemed more than enough even without her abhorrence at Talbot's passion for motor racing.
'I can't be a crash-widow again!' Mary wailed to her grandmother. 'I'd live in terror - dreading every race, every practice, every trial. I can't do it!'
Well Formula One IS boring.
The Dowager was determined though – as she invariably is. She never really addressed the trauma Mary had suffered seeing Talbot's colleague Charlie Rogers die at the wheel, much like her husband Matthew (albeit more slowly).
Instead the Dowager declared: 'I believe in rules and tradition and playing our part. But there is something else. I believe in LOVE.'
And with this, Lady Mary's objections to marrying Henry Talbot instantly vanished, as if Julian Fellowes couldn't wait to get it over with.
'I'm not sure why I fought it,' she told Henry. 'But I've stopped fighting it now.'
'You look nice, by the way': In the end, Lady Edith had only nice things to say when it all worked out swimmingly for her mean sister Lady Mary on her wedding day
'You look nice, by the way': In the end, Lady Edith had only nice things to say when it all worked out swimmingly for her mean sister Lady Mary on her wedding day
All's well that ends well: After a near-miss, Mary finally walked down the aisle with Henry Talbot
All's well that ends well: After a near-miss, Mary finally walked down the aisle with Henry Talbot
'Oh darling, thank God for you!' Talbot groveled – which Fellowes presumably thought was speaking for us all.
As luck would have it, he had a wedding licence on him and an uncle who was a bishop.
'There they go! A new couple in a new world!' cheered the Earl at the church five minutes later, having seemingly changed his mind about their social standing.
She even had Edith's blessing, if only because, Edith explained to her (and us), 'you're my sister. In the end only we will remember Sybil or mama or papa, or Matthew or Michael, or granny or Carson, until our shared memories will mean more than our mutual dislike.'
Mary repeated she was sorry - almost meaning it this time. 'I don't know why I did it.'
Her happy ending: Mary got what she wanted in the end, after much dithering 
Her happy ending: Mary got what she wanted in the end, after much dithering 
'You were unhappy so you wanted me to be unhappy too,' Edith stated flatly (correctly). 'Now you're happy, you'll be nicer. For a while.'
It was a damning verdict but even now Edith was reduced to telling Mary: 'you look nice by the way.'
After the devastating blows of losing Bertie and her chance of becoming a Marchioness, we had seen Edith gamely recovering in London, working away on her little magazine The Toff.
The final scene showed her smiling as she watched Marigold, George, and Sybbie playing in the churchyard.
So Edith was fine after all, which meant Mary supposedly wasn't that bad. Everything was forgiven.
After all, it was only Hexham. 

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  1. For some reason episode 8 isn't working. I'm so excited to see but it keeps freezing up and the other link says "too many views."

  2. She added a couple more links. It will play to the end.

  3. Thank you, June. Now you can have a well-deserved break before the Christmas episode.

  4. What a great summary. And I do wonder what Fellows obsession is with trying to make us love Mary in the end? Wow, I've never disliked a character so much and couldn't possibly be happy with her happy ending! She embodies the true definition of B**** and Snob!

    1. Hi Lori. I agree, but I think Edith's man is going to show up at Christmas time telling her that he can't live without her or Marigold, and he'll love Marigold like his own daughter. Just you wait!!! :)

    2. Cynthia, it would be wonderful if that would happen. I would like to see him say to Edith, lets adopt Marigold, then she can really call Edith Mama. Poor Edith, I cried for her.

    3. Oh, I certainly hope you're right, Cynthia, otherwise I will always feel there was a blemish at the end of a highly enjoyable 40+ episodes of Downton! But, if I think of the Dowager and all her to's and fro's in the last few episodes, I'll always laugh and be so pleased I 'knew' her. LOL ;)) Thank you for such 'generosity of spirit' dear June. I'm SO pleased that I've known you, as well. A VERY Merry Christmas to you, dear, from Canada!

    4. Oh, I'm SO disappointed - the Christmas bonus is listed but there is no 'HERE" or "HERE" OR "HERE" anywhere to get the final finale episode!!! I'm a little bit like a lemming when it comes to following the "HERE"s, but there are none and, thus, no episode. Oh, someone, any one, please tell me what I can do to find my 'Happy Ending'!!!!! Thanks for all you've done for so many, June, and wishing you the Happiest New Year to come!!!

  5. It's a little after midnight in Arizona, which would make it November 9th 12:15am, and I just finished watching it. It is exactly as you described, which I didn't read until after. I used the top link on the left. It froze once and I restarted and clicked on the time where I had gotten stuck, and finished it til the end. I'm hoping that the Christmas special will wrap things up a little better than this last episode did. It seemed a little forced. As always, thank you for posting this. God bless you, June.

  6. thank you so much--from Canada

  7. All 3 Google Heres exceeded playbacks and the One Drive Here didn't do anything- just black. Thank you!!! Can't wait to watch this one:). You are so kind.

  8. Thank you June!!! Wonderful!

  9. Oh no! My link froze about half way through and now none of them will play :(

  10. I would just point out (not having watched it yet) that this is a fight that Edith picked on her own. Mary might have stuck her finger in it several times, but those were small, one-to-one events involving a single male in Edith's life. Edith meantime, full on attacked Mary's public reputation with a steamroller. She fairly ruined Mary with the Turkish diplomat's death that she fed to the world. Edith dies the death of a thousand small cuts, but she dealt Mary a massive blow that Mary overcame. If Edith could had more backbone, she'd overcome the little things and Mary would knock it off.

  11. The links aren't working. bummer! It says it has been viewed to many times.

  12. I can't seem to get any of the links to work. Thanks for posting these!

  13. I figured it out. Both Lord Grantham and Julian Fellowes said that someone would die in the final season and Henry's friend doesn't count. OK, Bertie flies in a plane to Tunisia, it crashes, and Michael Gregson returns and takes Edith into his arms and meets his daughter. He had amnesia and the divorce went through. And Tom Branson begins a romance with the magazine editor. (Don't be bothered by rumor that an order of service card had been found in the church with the name Hubert on it.) Hubert (Bertie) dies.) Anyone agree with me?

    1. i feel the exact same way!!! Seriously would be amazing. I really want lady Edith to be happy, she deserves it. So glad she turned out to be a good egg after all. :)

    2. I too am running with the thought that Bertie dies in a plane crash. Thought a few episodes back that Lord Grantham was to die....just maybe he still might or the Dowager either way I certainly hope the Christmas Special is not rushed and ties all these open ending.

  14. The only link working for me is the first one, but there is no audio. Yes, my volume is turned up .Can anything be done?

  15. Try downloading it instead of streaming. They you have it to view anytime.

  16. This wasn't the last episode, Downton always has 9 episodes and this was just the 8th, there are too many loose ends

  17. June, you are a marvel! But Fellowes' ending was abrupt and unsatisfying. Odd and unprofessional, in the middle of the music and inadequate.

  18. The first link won't even start, and the other 3 all say exceeded views =(.

  19. JUST NOW FINDING THIS SITE!!!!! Is it too late to start watching the episodes from this season?? Are they only available for a certain period of time....???? ARGH!!!!!!!!

    1. You can watch them all day long, there are all Episodes from the beginning (2010) and don't go anywhere :)

    2. There are here for good :)

  20. Thank you very much! From USA

  21. Thoroughly enjoyed getting my Downton Abbey fix....I was so pulling for Edith in the end, but alas all is rosy for Mary... so looking forward to the Christmas episode....

    So grateful to you June for you providing these....puts a smile on my face Monday mornings :-)

  22. The episodes kept freezing on me as well. I decided to download one to see if it would play better and it did! So if you are having an issue viewing the episodes, then download the videos. I watched the last 4 episodes that way and they all played smoothly. I am so glad that I am able to watch all of the current episodes and its because of you. A big THANK YOU to June from Oklahoma :)

  23. Thank you so much!!! I'm still hopeful for Lady Edith and for Anna's pregnancy...

  24. I'm sad it's ending. I'm sadder at the wretched behaviour getting glorified! ��
    Thanks for making this link available!
    Really expecting grand endings at Christmas. ��

  25. Not sure if my first comment was registered.
    I am sad this is the end. Very sad that Mary and her wretched behaviours were glorified or rewarded for lack of a better phrase.
    Thanks very much for this link. When I hear the music all is right with the world!!
    Looking forward with expectations of grand endings at Christmas!!! ��

  26. Does it finish at 1:12:18? It seemed like it cut off abruptly. Is there still a Christmas special for this final season?

  27. Wow! I cannot believe it is virtually over. I must admit as thrilled as I am that you, June, have posted them most beautifully for us, the episode was a bit of a disappointment. At the end of the episode, I didn't feel like Mary deserved her happy ending. I felt very sorry for Edith - Mary didn't finish the series as the strong and likable person she was in the early seasons. As I am sad that it is over, I won't miss it quite as much with the ending we were given.

    1. Well, luckily it is not over until the Christmas Special is over. I expect that will be better for Edith and Mary might try to patch things up with her, though I don't know-not a big Mary fan.

  28. If MATTHEW was able to recover from what should have been hopeless paralysis (not to mention impotence) and go on to marry Mary, surely MICHAEL can turn up at last to marry Edith and claim Marigold!

  29. June, thank you so much for giving us in the United States the opportunity to watch Downton Abbey while you are watching in the UK. It has been such a spectacular show. I will truly miss it. There is such grace in some of the shows you have in your country. I wish it was more like that here in the U.S. Thank you again...and i'm sure i will watch the season again when it is available in the US in January.

  30. I wanted to download the finale (before the CS) to iTunes ( I did the same with Poldark all season), but the first link won't download (probably because of the freezing-it says, when I try to download it, "won't write file." The other links come back with a 404 error when I click on Download. HELP! ;-). And thank you. PS. SO tired of the person who continues to think that Edith, 12 YEARS ago, was mature enough to continue to not be forgiven for the letter, which, given her family connections (I read a LOT of history) would be so unlikely to have "ruined" her-besides it's Mary-NOTHING ruins her! I am quite sure Edith has been provoked by Mary far before the series even started-and the favoritism shown to her by all of the family, especially a father who helps a woman identify as a valuable girl/woman in developmental stages, could have ruined Edith. She would have far more "backbone" if she had been valued, clearly and with no ambiguity, from the beginning. Edith has reached out to Mary so many times since then, Mary scoffs, says disparaging, mean, and mocking things to her and behind her back and did from Act 1, Scene 1. They both were bratty children then. But Edith's grown and Mary acts the same way. Edith stood up for herself in this episode and now in the CS, I'm sure Mary will have a miraculous epiphany since almost everyone thought what she did was despicable. I won't buy it-Mary is a real b#$%^ except to those that idolize her, for the most part. No class. Anyway-help with download?

  31. Is there an episode 9 (season 6), or a Christmas finale???

  32. Are we really supposed to believe Mary likes Henry after the marvelous "I won't marry him" acting??? She had much more chemistry with Charles Blake and you could see another side to her that was only brought out with Matthew.

    Why is Lady Edith constantly stuck in the same type of story line??? It would have been a much more interesting turn of events to have Edith richer than Mary and happily married.

    I am pleased Moseley finally has good things happening.

  33. What the heck??? "A few loose ends" is quite an understatement. I surely hope the Christmas special works some of this out. AND: Dear Mr. Fellowes, To "leave them wanting more" is just withholding the complete dessert tray; stopping after this season is like feeding us watery gruel and and saying, "MORE? You want MORE?" Please sir, I want some more!

  34. It says above that it is Episode 8, ending with the wedding, but what I am seeing when I click watch here or here etc. is the one from the week before with Edith telling Mary off and Bertie leaving Edith. So where is the episode with the wedding???? Something please help....thanks

  35. Well, dear Downton Abbey Addiction Mates, let's reason Julian Fellows wanted us to feel just the way we are feeling now. We've swung Edith to the center of the story. We want her to triumph rather than feel like an ugly duck as long as she lives. That was obviously the mood he want to set...

    What if... George Clooney comes for her???

    I must admit as much as I found Mary all Edith called her and some, the episode kept me on the edge of my seat.

    Thank you June!! What is it going to be of us without Downton Abbey?

  36. Yes, this episode seemed so forced, so contrived. Oh well. There is a rush to bring an end to so many things.

  37. Do we at least have one more episode ;( why was the old lady's Butler looking for a job at Edith's paper? I wanted to see more better endings....and, has anyone seen the Movie "Selfless"????? guess who's in it?

  38. Finale?! Seriously...I think he left more loose ends than before! Arghhh!!! Thank you, June, for being so diligent in sharing! I truly appreciate your efforts!!

  39. @june - I keep refreshing waiting for Christmas special. EEK!

  40. When will you post the Christmas special?

  41. I'm on pins and needles anxiously waiting for you to upload Episode 9 ~ Christmas Special. I've been checking your site at least once an hour to see if it is available. I am sure you are busy with the holidays but I would truly appreciate if you could post this episode when you have the time. Thank you again for having such an amazing site.

  42. How beautiful was that!

    The best dialogue? Aunt Rosamund and Granny at the wedding. We sure don't know why the English are the way they are but some of us seriously 'blame it' on the weather!
    And how lovely they can be.

    Thank you June. Merry Belated Christmas!